1 00:00:02,760 --> 00:00:11,020 foreign 2 00:00:34,310 --> 00:00:16,310 [Music] 3 00:00:37,250 --> 00:00:34,320 UFO abductology under attack the first 4 00:00:39,889 --> 00:00:37,260 shots fired by Charles Lear throughout 5 00:00:42,650 --> 00:00:39,899 the 1990s the foremost authorities on 6 00:00:44,630 --> 00:00:42,660 UFO Abduction research were Bud Hopkins 7 00:00:46,010 --> 00:00:44,640 an artist who brought the subject to 8 00:00:48,770 --> 00:00:46,020 mainstream attention with the 9 00:00:51,830 --> 00:00:48,780 publication of his 1981 book missing 10 00:00:54,170 --> 00:00:51,840 time David Jacobs an associate professor 11 00:00:57,529 --> 00:00:54,180 of history at Temple University who 12 00:00:59,630 --> 00:00:57,539 published secret life in 1992 and John 13 00:01:01,970 --> 00:00:59,640 Mack head of Psychiatry at Harvard 14 00:01:05,210 --> 00:01:01,980 Medical School who published abduction 15 00:01:07,490 --> 00:01:05,220 in 1994. their book sold well and they 16 00:01:09,350 --> 00:01:07,500 all spoke openly to the press and were 17 00:01:11,630 --> 00:01:09,360 largely responsible for getting the 18 00:01:14,330 --> 00:01:11,640 alien abduction phenomenon a good deal 19 00:01:16,730 --> 00:01:14,340 of media coverage even some in the 20 00:01:18,830 --> 00:01:16,740 scientific Community probably due to Max 21 00:01:20,450 --> 00:01:18,840 efforts and tenure at Harvard were 22 00:01:22,789 --> 00:01:20,460 willing to look at the Phenomenon with 23 00:01:25,850 --> 00:01:22,799 an open mind and an abduction study 24 00:01:27,830 --> 00:01:25,860 Conference was held in 1992 at the 25 00:01:29,990 --> 00:01:27,840 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 26 00:01:32,270 --> 00:01:30,000 sponsored by a physics Professor there 27 00:01:34,249 --> 00:01:32,280 heard David Pritchard with the help of 28 00:01:37,249 --> 00:01:34,259 financial backing from Robert Bigelow 29 00:01:40,130 --> 00:01:37,259 Hopkins Mack and Jacobs were featured 30 00:01:41,749 --> 00:01:40,140 speakers and Hopkins faced some public 31 00:01:43,850 --> 00:01:41,759 criticism during the conference 32 00:01:45,710 --> 00:01:43,860 regarding his methods it wouldn't be 33 00:01:48,429 --> 00:01:45,720 long before he faced even harsher 34 00:01:52,190 --> 00:01:48,439 criticism from within the UFO Community 35 00:01:54,410 --> 00:01:52,200 author and journalist CBD Bryan attended 36 00:01:57,350 --> 00:01:54,420 the abduction study conference and wrote 37 00:01:59,990 --> 00:01:57,360 a book published in 1995 titled Close 38 00:02:02,090 --> 00:02:00,000 Encounters of the Fourth Kind about its 39 00:02:03,889 --> 00:02:02,100 experiences there he describes an 40 00:02:06,230 --> 00:02:03,899 abductee panel on day two of the 41 00:02:08,990 --> 00:02:06,240 conference during which a psychologist 42 00:02:11,809 --> 00:02:09,000 is described showing a child a set of 43 00:02:13,970 --> 00:02:11,819 images designed by Hopkins called the 44 00:02:17,210 --> 00:02:13,980 Hopkins image recognition test for 45 00:02:20,690 --> 00:02:17,220 children these showed Santa Claus Batman 46 00:02:23,390 --> 00:02:20,700 a clown a policeman a little girl a 47 00:02:26,330 --> 00:02:23,400 Ninja Turtle a little boy a witch and a 48 00:02:29,390 --> 00:02:26,340 skeleton according to Brian a 10th image 49 00:02:31,850 --> 00:02:29,400 showed a typical small gray the child 50 00:02:34,790 --> 00:02:31,860 was said to have responded you know my 51 00:02:37,190 --> 00:02:34,800 friends according to Brian Hopkins Rose 52 00:02:38,690 --> 00:02:37,200 to say that his cards were used with 53 00:02:41,570 --> 00:02:38,700 great success by mental health 54 00:02:43,430 --> 00:02:41,580 professionals and UFO researchers he 55 00:02:45,710 --> 00:02:43,440 described one case he was working on 56 00:02:48,410 --> 00:02:45,720 where a young boy responded to the image 57 00:02:50,390 --> 00:02:48,420 of the gray by saying mommy that's the 58 00:02:52,790 --> 00:02:50,400 man who comes into my room and beams me 59 00:02:54,369 --> 00:02:52,800 up into the spacecraft I saw you there 60 00:02:57,830 --> 00:02:54,379 too and you were naked on the table 61 00:02:59,869 --> 00:02:57,840 according to Brian several psychologists 62 00:03:01,790 --> 00:02:59,879 complained during the question and 63 00:03:03,890 --> 00:03:01,800 answer period that the cards were 64 00:03:07,070 --> 00:03:03,900 neither standardized nor scientific 65 00:03:09,790 --> 00:03:07,080 Brian describes three Omnibus Roper 66 00:03:11,830 --> 00:03:09,800 poles conducted in the summer of 1991 67 00:03:14,990 --> 00:03:11,840 involving 68 00:03:16,910 --> 00:03:15,000 5947 adults Robert Bigelow made 69 00:03:19,490 --> 00:03:16,920 arrangements to have 11 questions 70 00:03:21,589 --> 00:03:19,500 created by Hopkins and Jacobs included 71 00:03:23,690 --> 00:03:21,599 and paid to have the results published 72 00:03:25,610 --> 00:03:23,700 the questions were designed with the 73 00:03:28,009 --> 00:03:25,620 idea that they would indicate the 74 00:03:30,530 --> 00:03:28,019 likelihood that a person had had an 75 00:03:33,170 --> 00:03:30,540 abduction experience the poll take Acres 76 00:03:35,570 --> 00:03:33,180 ask the subjects if certain things that 77 00:03:39,050 --> 00:03:35,580 occurred more than twice once or twice 78 00:03:41,809 --> 00:03:39,060 or never including seeing a ghost seeing 79 00:03:44,630 --> 00:03:41,819 a UFO waking up paralyzed with missing 80 00:03:47,690 --> 00:03:44,640 time finding puzzling scars and having 81 00:03:50,149 --> 00:03:47,700 vivid dreams about UFOs according to 82 00:03:52,190 --> 00:03:50,159 Brian Hopkins talked about the poll at 83 00:03:55,190 --> 00:03:52,200 the conference and said that two percent 84 00:03:56,949 --> 00:03:55,200 of those surveyed responded Yes to four 85 00:04:00,229 --> 00:03:56,959 out of five indicator questions 86 00:04:03,350 --> 00:04:00,239 indicating that 3.7 million American 87 00:04:05,990 --> 00:04:03,360 adults might be abductees Brian 88 00:04:08,869 --> 00:04:06,000 describes the lecture hall being in an 89 00:04:11,449 --> 00:04:08,879 uproar after the presentation according 90 00:04:13,250 --> 00:04:11,459 to him complaints included your whole 91 00:04:15,710 --> 00:04:13,260 findings are based on the assumption 92 00:04:18,590 --> 00:04:15,720 that your key indicators will strongly 93 00:04:20,750 --> 00:04:18,600 predict who might be abductees and these 94 00:04:23,930 --> 00:04:20,760 indicators do not have any scientific 95 00:04:26,749 --> 00:04:23,940 basis to suggest they are sound and that 96 00:04:28,790 --> 00:04:26,759 no systematic pretests were carefully 97 00:04:30,409 --> 00:04:28,800 done to find out how the respondents 98 00:04:33,409 --> 00:04:30,419 interpret what they've been 99 00:04:35,270 --> 00:04:33,419 according to Brian Mack responded how 100 00:04:37,310 --> 00:04:35,280 can we get our colleagues to validate 101 00:04:39,590 --> 00:04:37,320 the poll when they totally reject the 102 00:04:42,050 --> 00:04:39,600 concept the next round of criticism 103 00:04:44,570 --> 00:04:42,060 Hopkins was to face would come from 104 00:04:48,050 --> 00:04:44,580 within the UFO Community according to 105 00:04:50,330 --> 00:04:48,060 Brian on day three Hopkins was the first 106 00:04:52,850 --> 00:04:50,340 Speaker after lunch and he gave a 107 00:04:55,249 --> 00:04:52,860 presentation titled A doubly witnessed 108 00:04:57,770 --> 00:04:55,259 abduction this was about a case he was 109 00:04:59,930 --> 00:04:57,780 involved in that has become known as the 110 00:05:02,450 --> 00:04:59,940 Brooklyn Bridge Abduction the case 111 00:05:04,610 --> 00:05:02,460 involved a woman he referred to as Linda 112 00:05:06,950 --> 00:05:04,620 courteel now known to be Linda 113 00:05:09,230 --> 00:05:06,960 Napolitano who claimed she was abducted 114 00:05:11,570 --> 00:05:09,240 by aliens who floated her out a window 115 00:05:13,969 --> 00:05:11,580 of her 12th floor downtown Manhattan 116 00:05:18,050 --> 00:05:13,979 apartment and up into their craft at 3 117 00:05:20,510 --> 00:05:18,060 15 a.m in late November 1989. what made 118 00:05:22,969 --> 00:05:20,520 this case unusual was that there were 119 00:05:26,450 --> 00:05:22,979 supposedly Witnesses on the ground two 120 00:05:28,850 --> 00:05:26,460 men Richard and Dan who came forward and 121 00:05:31,310 --> 00:05:28,860 identified themselves by letter and on 122 00:05:34,730 --> 00:05:31,320 tape over 14 months later year in 123 00:05:36,469 --> 00:05:34,740 February of 1991 as policemen they later 124 00:05:39,050 --> 00:05:36,479 wrote that they were part of a security 125 00:05:41,930 --> 00:05:39,060 detail transporting U.N Secretary 126 00:05:44,090 --> 00:05:41,940 General Javier Perez tequilar from a 127 00:05:47,749 --> 00:05:44,100 heliport in the area five months later 128 00:05:50,150 --> 00:05:47,759 in July of 1991 a woman contacted 129 00:05:51,890 --> 00:05:50,160 Hopkins and said she'd witnessed the 130 00:05:54,230 --> 00:05:51,900 abduction while driving across the 131 00:05:57,110 --> 00:05:54,240 Brooklyn Bridge the case turned into a 132 00:05:59,570 --> 00:05:57,120 UFO soap opera that involved Richard and 133 00:06:01,790 --> 00:05:59,580 Dan supposedly becoming obsessed with 134 00:06:04,189 --> 00:06:01,800 Linda to the point where they spied on 135 00:06:06,890 --> 00:06:04,199 her kidnapped her Dan tried to rape her 136 00:06:08,570 --> 00:06:06,900 and Richard rescued her Richard then 137 00:06:10,550 --> 00:06:08,580 claimed that he and Linda had been 138 00:06:12,710 --> 00:06:10,560 abducted since childhood had a 139 00:06:15,290 --> 00:06:12,720 relationship that existed only on the 140 00:06:17,810 --> 00:06:15,300 alien ships and that he was the actual 141 00:06:20,689 --> 00:06:17,820 father Linda was married of her first 142 00:06:23,270 --> 00:06:20,699 child this was all reported by mail and 143 00:06:26,150 --> 00:06:23,280 on tape Hopkins never actually met 144 00:06:27,770 --> 00:06:26,160 Richard or Dan Patrick Huey wrote an 145 00:06:29,870 --> 00:06:27,780 article with a good summation of the 146 00:06:32,809 --> 00:06:29,880 case titled the great high-rise 147 00:06:36,830 --> 00:06:32,819 abduction published an omni magazine 148 00:06:39,590 --> 00:06:36,840 volume 16 issue 7. there is a 1993 paper 149 00:06:41,809 --> 00:06:39,600 about this case titled A critique of Bud 150 00:06:44,330 --> 00:06:41,819 Hopkins case of the UFO Abduction of 151 00:06:47,330 --> 00:06:44,340 Linda Napolitano written by Joseph Chase 152 00:06:50,090 --> 00:06:47,340 stefila Richard D Butler and George P 153 00:06:51,770 --> 00:06:50,100 Hansen according to the authors the 154 00:06:53,809 --> 00:06:51,780 first of them to become acquainted with 155 00:06:56,029 --> 00:06:53,819 the case was Butler who learned about it 156 00:06:57,950 --> 00:06:56,039 during meetings he'd been attending held 157 00:07:01,010 --> 00:06:57,960 by Hopkins that included both 158 00:07:02,990 --> 00:07:01,020 researchers and abductees he invited 159 00:07:04,969 --> 00:07:03,000 stephula to a meeting and they both 160 00:07:07,790 --> 00:07:04,979 talked to Linda gave her their phone 161 00:07:10,249 --> 00:07:07,800 numbers and offered their help stephula 162 00:07:12,170 --> 00:07:10,259 in particular set his contacts in law 163 00:07:14,749 --> 00:07:12,180 enforcement could be of use to her 164 00:07:18,070 --> 00:07:14,759 according to the authors they also gave 165 00:07:21,529 --> 00:07:18,080 Hopkins this information a January 28 166 00:07:23,809 --> 00:07:21,539 1992 meeting with Napolitano Butler and 167 00:07:26,570 --> 00:07:23,819 stefilas described where she gave them 168 00:07:30,050 --> 00:07:26,580 details about her case then according to 169 00:07:32,270 --> 00:07:30,060 the authors at a July 1992 Mutual UFO 170 00:07:34,490 --> 00:07:32,280 Network attention in Albuquerque New 171 00:07:36,890 --> 00:07:34,500 Mexico stefila heard Hopkins and 172 00:07:38,809 --> 00:07:36,900 Napolitano speak and noted that some of 173 00:07:40,909 --> 00:07:38,819 the statements contradicted the 174 00:07:43,249 --> 00:07:40,919 information Napolitano had given during 175 00:07:44,870 --> 00:07:43,259 the meeting a meeting with Hopkins at 176 00:07:48,170 --> 00:07:44,880 his home is said to have been arranged 177 00:07:50,089 --> 00:07:48,180 for October 3rd 1992 after he initially 178 00:07:52,249 --> 00:07:50,099 declined saying he didn't want to talk 179 00:07:54,589 --> 00:07:52,259 about the case until his book was 180 00:07:56,689 --> 00:07:54,599 published the authors present the 181 00:07:59,570 --> 00:07:56,699 initial problems with the case on page 182 00:08:00,890 --> 00:07:59,580 10 of the paper and they include Hopkins 183 00:08:04,129 --> 00:08:00,900 not having been able to interview 184 00:08:05,990 --> 00:08:04,139 Richard Dan or peresta quilar the lack 185 00:08:07,850 --> 00:08:06,000 of any sort of background check on the 186 00:08:10,550 --> 00:08:07,860 female witness on the bridge and 187 00:08:12,830 --> 00:08:10,560 napolitano's refusal to file any sort of 188 00:08:15,290 --> 00:08:12,840 police report despite claiming she'd 189 00:08:17,629 --> 00:08:15,300 been in the author's words kidnapped 190 00:08:19,909 --> 00:08:17,639 twice nearly drowned and further 191 00:08:22,610 --> 00:08:19,919 harassed the authors detail their 192 00:08:24,950 --> 00:08:22,620 investigation on page 11 and report that 193 00:08:26,809 --> 00:08:24,960 they found no Witnesses at napolitano's 194 00:08:29,510 --> 00:08:26,819 building despite there being a guard 195 00:08:31,850 --> 00:08:29,520 booth there that was manned 24 hours a 196 00:08:34,550 --> 00:08:31,860 day they also found that the only 197 00:08:37,310 --> 00:08:34,560 heliport in the area didn't operate at 3 198 00:08:39,529 --> 00:08:37,320 15 am and that about six months 199 00:08:41,870 --> 00:08:39,539 previously the heliport authorities had 200 00:08:43,969 --> 00:08:41,880 been approached by a man in his 50s with 201 00:08:47,269 --> 00:08:43,979 white hair who had made a similar 202 00:08:50,090 --> 00:08:47,279 inquiry that man had asked about a UFO 203 00:08:52,430 --> 00:08:50,100 that had crashed into the East River the 204 00:08:54,470 --> 00:08:52,440 authors report that at the July mufon 205 00:08:57,530 --> 00:08:54,480 convention International director of 206 00:08:59,810 --> 00:08:57,540 mufon Walt Andrus had told stefila that 207 00:09:02,449 --> 00:08:59,820 mufon had no interest in publishing 208 00:09:06,350 --> 00:09:02,459 anything critical of the case they also 209 00:09:09,170 --> 00:09:06,360 report that on September 14 1992 Hopkins 210 00:09:12,050 --> 00:09:09,180 faxed Butler a letter where he has a 211 00:09:14,269 --> 00:09:12,060 long-standing member of mufon issued an 212 00:09:16,670 --> 00:09:14,279 order his word according to the authors 213 00:09:19,130 --> 00:09:16,680 to stefila and Butler to stop their 214 00:09:22,910 --> 00:09:19,140 investigation in the description of the 215 00:09:24,829 --> 00:09:22,920 October 3rd 1992 meeting Walt Andrus and 216 00:09:27,050 --> 00:09:24,839 vice president of the center for UFO 217 00:09:29,150 --> 00:09:27,060 studies Jerome Clark are said to have 218 00:09:31,370 --> 00:09:29,160 been present according to the authors 219 00:09:33,230 --> 00:09:31,380 they learned that Hopkins had not not 220 00:09:34,970 --> 00:09:33,240 talk to the guards and hadn't even 221 00:09:37,190 --> 00:09:34,980 checked on the weather for the time in 222 00:09:39,530 --> 00:09:37,200 question which is a basic procedure 223 00:09:41,990 --> 00:09:39,540 especially for a mufon investigator 224 00:09:44,690 --> 00:09:42,000 according to them when they suggested 225 00:09:47,269 --> 00:09:44,700 Napolitano file a police report Hopkins 226 00:09:49,670 --> 00:09:47,279 andris and Clark appeared to literally 227 00:09:52,550 --> 00:09:49,680 panic at the suggestion they also 228 00:09:56,150 --> 00:09:52,560 reported that Clark strenuously urged 229 00:09:58,730 --> 00:09:56,160 that Outsiders cease investigations in 230 00:10:00,949 --> 00:09:58,740 their discussion the authors state that 231 00:10:03,530 --> 00:10:00,959 the case appears beset by an 232 00:10:05,269 --> 00:10:03,540 overwhelming number of problems they 233 00:10:08,030 --> 00:10:05,279 describe having taken on their 234 00:10:10,730 --> 00:10:08,040 investigation reluctantly not wanting to 235 00:10:12,769 --> 00:10:10,740 discredit UFO research but note that 236 00:10:14,509 --> 00:10:12,779 more damage would be done if their 237 00:10:16,370 --> 00:10:14,519 misgivings were not brought up for 238 00:10:18,710 --> 00:10:16,380 discussion they note that they were 239 00:10:21,290 --> 00:10:18,720 unprepared for their reactions of Andrus 240 00:10:23,389 --> 00:10:21,300 and Clark who aggressively tried to 241 00:10:25,610 --> 00:10:23,399 dissuade us from continuing our 242 00:10:27,769 --> 00:10:25,620 investigation and so far they have 243 00:10:30,170 --> 00:10:27,779 failed to publish any material critical 244 00:10:32,630 --> 00:10:30,180 of the case they circulated their paper 245 00:10:35,630 --> 00:10:32,640 among the UF foe community and it was 246 00:10:38,570 --> 00:10:35,640 posted on the UFO BBS as part of the 247 00:10:41,810 --> 00:10:38,580 February 1993 issue of electronic 248 00:10:43,910 --> 00:10:41,820 unidentified flying objects news also in 249 00:10:45,790 --> 00:10:43,920 that issue is a reply to a document 250 00:10:48,889 --> 00:10:45,800 Hanson circulated among the community 251 00:10:51,050 --> 00:10:48,899 titled attempted murder versus the 252 00:10:53,389 --> 00:10:51,060 politics of ufology a question of 253 00:10:56,150 --> 00:10:53,399 priorities in the Linda Napolitano case 254 00:10:58,970 --> 00:10:56,160 the reply is titled the politics of 255 00:11:01,970 --> 00:10:58,980 torquamata or Earth calling Hansen's 256 00:11:04,610 --> 00:11:01,980 planet in the reply Hanson is described 257 00:11:07,310 --> 00:11:04,620 as short a newfological experience but 258 00:11:09,350 --> 00:11:07,320 long on self-righteous blather it seems 259 00:11:12,170 --> 00:11:09,360 Hopkins was propped up by the UFO 260 00:11:14,690 --> 00:11:12,180 Community but his 1996 book on the case 261 00:11:16,730 --> 00:11:14,700 witness received harsh treatment from 262 00:11:18,889 --> 00:11:16,740 critics and didn't get a lot of press 263 00:11:21,769 --> 00:11:18,899 the man making the news in abduction 264 00:11:23,990 --> 00:11:21,779 research at this time was John Mack and 265 00:11:26,569 --> 00:11:24,000 by the time witness was published he had 266 00:11:30,110 --> 00:11:26,579 been under scrutiny as well next week 267 00:11:33,050 --> 00:11:30,120 UFO abductology under attack John Mack 268 00:11:35,150 --> 00:11:33,060 under inquiry at Harvard Charles Lear is 269 00:11:52,250 --> 00:11:35,160 the author of The Flying Saucer 270 00:11:52,260 --> 00:11:57,260 foreign